I don’t understand the value prop or business model of NFTR well enough to place a vote on this.
My thesis as a delegate is: “Nouns has a unique role in the ecosystem as a gathering place around public goods.”
To be clear, I absolutely love on-chain experimentation. I love new projects in on-chain naming and on-chain social. I'm excited for the way this space is rapidly expanding.
This adoption, however, should come bottom-up and not top-down. Nouners naming their Nouns? Great! A proposal for Nouns DAO to name its Noun? Feels like using the DAO for advertising.
The attention of voters and delegates is scarce. Gas fees per prop creates a real cost. Time spent analyzing proposals like this takes time away from proposals that encourage Nouns to fund a public good.
I love the initiative, but a DAO proposal doesn't feel like the time or the place. There's nothing about this that should require the buy-in of the full DAO, when individual Nouners naming their Nouns serves the same purpose. Approving this sets a bad precedent of groups that want to use Nouns for advertising. It's easy to say that this prop is fun, but approving it means we'll get 10 more just like it.
Reading through the proposal it felt a bit like a promotion for NFTR. I would have appreciated more info on the platform. I agree with a lot of pro's and con's given by other voters, but didn't have time to properly form a full opinion myself, so I'll be abstaning.
This particular proposal, while obviously harmless, raises some important questions about what kind of proposals the DAO should be soliciting.
Though the proposal's premise is that the DAO gets to name a Noun, the proposal itself suggests the name. Though the proposal's 'background' section should state why this is something Nouns members should support, what's written acts only as an advertisement for NFTR. Though the proposal is 'free', it of course requires members of the DAO to vote, requiring gas fees.
This is not to say that we shouldn't pursue fun proposals, but rather that as a community we should be mindful of the potential for proposals to be used for purposes beyond their stated intentions.
In this case, it may be worth considering whether there are alternative ways to engage the community in a fun and lighthearted manner, without compromising the integrity of the governance system.
one side of me does't find the idea all that compelling - the other side sees that this as just a fun onchain action. no strong feelings either way. best of luck to digitaloil w his project!
Perfect timing to name our new Noun. Looking forward to seeing “JellO” become official. Nice work, Digital!
I appreciate all for and against comments as I think both sides can be simultaneously logically sound.
I especially appreciate those that support other Nouners' work and Nounish integrations of said work with the DAO.
It seems like an interesting way to get attention for the service by naming a noun in the treasury. Concept is cool.
Agree with Jihad that it's not really an endorsement imo - we're just vibing and naming a Noun at no cost to the treasury.
I think an endorsement would be something like:
if 40 addresses vote on this proposal at this week's average gas price, it will cost the DAO $600 in gas rebates. There are 10 proposals this week.
This is the rare nouns prop that doesn't ask for any money, and think it's good to encourage a plethora of naming systems. ENS is obviously dominant today but Nouns should encourage and experiment with alternate approaches.
hmm.. I appreciate jihad & noun 12's view here. but I ultimately feel like props like this aren't "free". the voter base has to read through, weigh, and vote, which has cognitive & financial costs (gas).
so while I appreciate digitaloil's work personally, I don't want to encourage the promotion of onchain products through nouns onchain props when it doesn't really serve a need for us. thus, voting against.
The DAO should help and endorse Nouners who build Nounish things, conditional on passing a vote, naturally. This helps a Nounish builder, demonstrates the value of their adjacent Nounish work and costs nothing tangible and almost nothing overall. We can equivocate and endorse nothing for fake decentralization theorycraft reasons, but if the DAO doesn't have a view on things and stand behind work by Nouners, Nounders, and Noun Family, we're not doing our job.
I don't see this as an endorsement of a product. It's an interesting, fun onchain action, that doesn't limit us from taking other onchain actions in the same vein.
Let's do it!
the dao should be careful endorsing products and this proposed partnership seems very one-sided in favor of NFTR
NFTR is the NFT identity registry on Ethereum. Let's name our recently acquired jellyfish Noun 687: JellO on NFTR.
NFTR (pronounced Nifter) stands for NFTRegistry. Founded by Nouner DigitalOil, NFTR is the NFT identity protocol on Ethereum.
Identity starts with naming; kind of like ENS but for NFTs instead of wallets.
Features launching soon:
Features launching later:
Thanks to Prop 268 we were able to directly bid on and win a Noun.
Noun 687 soon to have a name
Since our Noun lies in our treasury, we can name it via an on-chain prop.
NFTR has assigned a naming credit to the Nouns Treasury so naming JellO is free.
I touched upon the idea of naming 687 and Nouner Supriyo suggested the name JellO, which was well received by other Nouners.
At the moment, 6 Nouns are named on NFTR.
Let’s name JellO so that it joins the club and gets its own NFTR domain (.nftr) and profile page accesible by name:
JellO.nftr.name
Nouns currently named on NFTR
Example NFTR profile page
That’s all folks!
NFTR is the NFT identity registry on Ethereum. Let's name our recently acquired jellyfish Noun 687: JellO on NFTR.
NFTR (pronounced Nifter) stands for NFTRegistry. Founded by Nouner DigitalOil, NFTR is the NFT identity protocol on Ethereum.
Identity starts with naming; kind of like ENS but for NFTs instead of wallets.
Features launching soon:
Features launching later:
Thanks to Prop 268 we were able to directly bid on and win a Noun.
Noun 687 soon to have a name
Since our Noun lies in our treasury, we can name it via an on-chain prop.
NFTR has assigned a naming credit to the Nouns Treasury so naming JellO is free.
I touched upon the idea of naming 687 and Nouner Supriyo suggested the name JellO, which was well received by other Nouners.
At the moment, 6 Nouns are named on NFTR.
Let’s name JellO so that it joins the club and gets its own NFTR domain (.nftr) and profile page accesible by name:
JellO.nftr.name
Nouns currently named on NFTR
Example NFTR profile page
That’s all folks!
